Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]
Description
My guest today is Luca Ferrari. Luca is the co-founder and CEO of Bending Spoons, which he describes as 25 percent private equity and 75 percent technology company. Founded in 2013, Bending Spoons fully acquires and operates digital companies like Evernote, Meetup, Vimeo, and most recently AOL.
Our conversation explores the unique model behind Bending Spoons, and the culture required to scale it. Luca shares exactly how their acquisition playbook works – from identifying promising businesses to rebuilding every part of them across product, design, monetization, and marketing. We discuss their approach to financing long-term ownership through both debt and equity, Luca’s obsession with finding and developing exceptional talent, and his decision to build the company in Europe.
I found Luca’s description of himself as perennially unhappy to be the clearest window into how he builds. It’s a mindset that fuels his pursuit of excellence and defines the culture at Bending Spoons.
Please enjoy my conversation with Luca Ferrari.
For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here.
-----
This episode is brought to you by Ramp. Ramp’s mission is to help companies manage their spend in a way that reduces expenses and frees up time for teams to work on more valuable projects. Go to Ramp.com/invest to sign up for free and get a $250 welcome bonus.
–
This episode is brought to you by AlphaSense. AlphaSense has completely transformed the research process with cutting-edge AI technology and a vast collection of top-tier, reliable business content. Invest Like the Best listeners can get a free trial now at Alpha-Sense.com/Invest and experience firsthand how AlphaSense and Tegus help you make smarter decisions faster.
–-
This episode is brought to you by Ridgeline. Ridgeline has built a complete, real-time, modern operating system for investment managers. It handles trading, portfolio management, compliance, customer reporting, and much more through an all-in-one real-time cloud platform. Head to ridgelineapps.com to learn more about the platform.
-----
Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com).
Show Notes:
(00:00:00 ) Welcome to Invest Like the Best
(00:03:12 ) The Vision and Ambition
(00:07:56 ) Challenges and Early Days
(00:11:01 ) The Turning Point: Evertale to Bending Spoons
(00:13:12 ) Acquisition Strategy and Growth
(00:24:22 ) Case Study: Evernote Acquisition
(00:33:34 ) Pricing and Valuation Insights
(00:40:02 ) Making Competitive Offers
(00:40:37 ) Walkaway Rate and Offer Success
(00:41:14 ) Financing the Business
(00:43:21 ) Lessons from Acquisitions
(00:46:32 ) The AOL Acquisition
(00:48:21 ) Simplifying Business Operations
(00:56:10 ) Incentives and Motivation
(00:58:31 ) Balancing Discontent and Growth
(01:03:21 ) Raising Debt Capital
(01:06:37 ) Impact of AI on Business
(01:11:00 ) Company Culture and Traditions
(01:16:00 ) The Kindest Thing

![Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446] Luca Ferrari - Building Bending Spoons - [Invest Like the Best, EP.446]](https://s3.castbox.fm/e5/0c/ac/7c9899afaea7486844302adb46b738fd6f_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Kevin Kelly - Be Generous and Unique - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS] Kevin Kelly - Be Generous and Unique - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]](https://s3.castbox.fm/c8/8d/b9/8f509757a85fd4dede8bab63270f4508dd_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Ken Langone - The American Dream - [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY] Ken Langone - The American Dream - [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]](https://s3.castbox.fm/e3/39/fe/aaf54b17386a69fdcf4536be8d1aa585cb_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Karim Atiyeh - Building Ramp - [Invest Like the Best, EP.445] Karim Atiyeh - Building Ramp - [Invest Like the Best, EP.445]](https://s3.castbox.fm/f2/54/c2/24b77c8efe00c210c06d608e5bf28b3123_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444] Dan Wang - The US vs China In The 21st Century - [Invest Like the Best, EP.444]](https://s3.castbox.fm/5b/47/88/6cf9e2ea19f53ff9ac923ff50788350b36_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443] Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]](https://s3.castbox.fm/be/ba/40/d0dfa9ec737529f2b722a3c99d7913d558_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442] Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]](https://s3.castbox.fm/85/38/de/fe472b0dce5a590df2ffe135bd79886873_scaled_v1_400.jpg)

![Barry Diller - Building An Entertainment Empire - [Invest Like the Best, EP.441] Barry Diller - Building An Entertainment Empire - [Invest Like the Best, EP.441]](https://s3.castbox.fm/f5/92/2d/67beeb87fce4d198322766ba7bce5a67b5_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Jeff Horing - Building Insight Partners - [Invest Like the Best, EP.440] Jeff Horing - Building Insight Partners - [Invest Like the Best, EP.440]](https://s3.castbox.fm/73/9b/8d/ccf7476cc781732d2b315bc683d31e800f_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Sam Hinkie - Find Your People - [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY] Sam Hinkie - Find Your People - [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]](https://s3.castbox.fm/c3/f1/db/70d7ac6e3a7216d456671b60c59adb254d_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Sean Feeney - Reinventing the Restaurant Business - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS] Sean Feeney - Reinventing the Restaurant Business - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]](https://s3.castbox.fm/81/9f/6c/0e75fa97557a99877561b9ef180d675537_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Justin Ishbia - Lessons from Acquiring 586 Companies [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY] Justin Ishbia - Lessons from Acquiring 586 Companies [Invest Like the Best, REPLAY]](https://s3.castbox.fm/aa/a4/f5/aad31d19eb3658d3bad1adab1116eeed24_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Joe Liemandt - Building Alpha School, and The Future of Education - [Invest Like the Best, EP.439] Joe Liemandt - Building Alpha School, and The Future of Education - [Invest Like the Best, EP.439]](https://s3.castbox.fm/4d/ef/13/ad062538f6ed01b65a6dc01c954458c2d2_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Mark Bertolini - Performance During Pain - [Invest Like the Best, EP.438] Mark Bertolini - Performance During Pain - [Invest Like the Best, EP.438]](https://s3.castbox.fm/23/9a/2b/aad33e7cbb0ec5809a9882b306aa9f346a_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Peter Lacaillade - Backing The Best Managers In Private Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.437] Peter Lacaillade - Backing The Best Managers In Private Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.437]](https://s3.castbox.fm/7c/2c/25/4815f341e291ad4b352b3ea335e61be195_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436] Andrew Milgram - Full-Contact Capitalism - [Invest Like the Best, EP.436]](https://s3.castbox.fm/a8/5e/1a/199eca3cee62a6821f2bd689dcc6304765_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435] Ramtin Naimi - Building Abstract - [Invest Like the Best, EP.435]](https://s3.castbox.fm/97/23/f5/3c46f595c7683333ca08bb43ffc0c2da3d_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS] Brad Jacobs - Think Big and Move Fast - [Invest Like the Best, CLASSICS]](https://s3.castbox.fm/fc/cf/cf/212a56cfffdb2712a2e57a385e43dcfc8e_scaled_v1_400.jpg)
![Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434] Zach Dell - Powering the Future - [Invest Like the Best, EP.434]](https://s3.castbox.fm/cd/6d/4e/4d2d9bd0b317c441d14e5be747f278602e_scaled_v1_400.jpg)


